gc28262
06-29 09:07 AM
My question is -
what are these "1000s of folks" doing? Are they waiting for someone else to work for their cause?
If they believe they were wronged, they need to take action. Without any action, nothing is going to happen.
And, yes, these is discrimination on the both side of the lines. Have you looked at the hiring practices of leading desi outsourcing/consulting companies in the US?
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Not a legal advice.
Here is the contact info for registering a complaint.
Office of Special Counsel for Immigration Related Unfair Employment Practices (http://www.usdoj.gov/crt/osc/htm/contactus.htm)
Office of Special Counsel Contact List
Through a language interpreter service, we are equipped to assist callers in all languages.
Mailing Address:
U.S. Department of Justice
Civil Rights Division
Office of Special Counsel for Immigration-Related
Unfair Employment Practices
950 Pennsylvania Avenue, N.W.
Washington, D.C. 20530
Main Number: (202) 616-5594
Fax Number: (202) 616-5509
Toll Free Information Number and Worker Hotline: 1-800-255-7688
(202) 616-5525 or 1-800-237-2515 (TDD for hearing impaired)
Employer Hotline: 1-800-255-8155
1-800-237-2515 (TDD for hearing impaired)
E-mail Address: osccrt@usdoj.gov. We will make every effort to respond to emails that relate to the work of this office within 30 days. However, for immediate assistance, please call our employer hotline (1-800-255-8155) or worker hotline (1-800-255-7688).
Web Address: Office of Special Counsel for Immigration-Related Unfair Employment Practices (OSC) -- Home Page (http://www.usdoj.gov/crt/osc)
Special Counsel
Vacant
Deputy Special Counsel
Katherine A. Baldwin
Special Policy Counsel
Margaret Hu
Special Litigation Counsel
Robin M. Stutman
what are these "1000s of folks" doing? Are they waiting for someone else to work for their cause?
If they believe they were wronged, they need to take action. Without any action, nothing is going to happen.
And, yes, these is discrimination on the both side of the lines. Have you looked at the hiring practices of leading desi outsourcing/consulting companies in the US?
__________________
Not a legal advice.
Here is the contact info for registering a complaint.
Office of Special Counsel for Immigration Related Unfair Employment Practices (http://www.usdoj.gov/crt/osc/htm/contactus.htm)
Office of Special Counsel Contact List
Through a language interpreter service, we are equipped to assist callers in all languages.
Mailing Address:
U.S. Department of Justice
Civil Rights Division
Office of Special Counsel for Immigration-Related
Unfair Employment Practices
950 Pennsylvania Avenue, N.W.
Washington, D.C. 20530
Main Number: (202) 616-5594
Fax Number: (202) 616-5509
Toll Free Information Number and Worker Hotline: 1-800-255-7688
(202) 616-5525 or 1-800-237-2515 (TDD for hearing impaired)
Employer Hotline: 1-800-255-8155
1-800-237-2515 (TDD for hearing impaired)
E-mail Address: osccrt@usdoj.gov. We will make every effort to respond to emails that relate to the work of this office within 30 days. However, for immediate assistance, please call our employer hotline (1-800-255-8155) or worker hotline (1-800-255-7688).
Web Address: Office of Special Counsel for Immigration-Related Unfair Employment Practices (OSC) -- Home Page (http://www.usdoj.gov/crt/osc)
Special Counsel
Vacant
Deputy Special Counsel
Katherine A. Baldwin
Special Policy Counsel
Margaret Hu
Special Litigation Counsel
Robin M. Stutman
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InTheMoment
08-01 08:35 PM
Since it reached before July 30 it can reach anywhere !
Though I would say pray for TSC !
On July 25th lawyer sent my documents 140 & 485 concurrent, PD port from previous I-140 approval (approved at Nebraska).
Reached Nebraska Service Centre on July 26th.
Will it be processed at Nebraska Service centre or Texas Service centre? According to new direct filing instructions my employer and my residence comes under Texas Service centre.
Though I would say pray for TSC !
On July 25th lawyer sent my documents 140 & 485 concurrent, PD port from previous I-140 approval (approved at Nebraska).
Reached Nebraska Service Centre on July 26th.
Will it be processed at Nebraska Service centre or Texas Service centre? According to new direct filing instructions my employer and my residence comes under Texas Service centre.
srikondoji
07-05 11:08 AM
I sent it for Friday deliver.
http://www.ftd.com/528/catalog/product_search.epl?expresslane=Yes&AID=search&flc=FTD&website_id=528&SLI_searchintegration=1&search_box=F488&Go.x=0&Go.y=0
cost 24.99 to be delivered Friday 7th. Search for F488
Merchandise Subtotal: $ 24 .99
Service Charge Subtotal: $ 13 .99
Discount Subtotal: $ (5 .00)
Your Order Total: $ 33 .98 All prices are in US dollars
Message to Emilio
Thank you for giving us Hope for few hours on July 1st and taking it away. We enjoyed the ride and the pain. Wish you all the best for future Visa Bulletins.
-- let the campaign begin..
http://www.ftd.com/528/catalog/product_search.epl?expresslane=Yes&AID=search&flc=FTD&website_id=528&SLI_searchintegration=1&search_box=F488&Go.x=0&Go.y=0
cost 24.99 to be delivered Friday 7th. Search for F488
Merchandise Subtotal: $ 24 .99
Service Charge Subtotal: $ 13 .99
Discount Subtotal: $ (5 .00)
Your Order Total: $ 33 .98 All prices are in US dollars
Message to Emilio
Thank you for giving us Hope for few hours on July 1st and taking it away. We enjoyed the ride and the pain. Wish you all the best for future Visa Bulletins.
-- let the campaign begin..
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sangmami
07-02 08:49 AM
mine at local fedex facility at 8.05am at nebraska
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blacktongue
11-18 01:39 PM
I will donate 100 dollars if they make any changes in DREAM Act wrt to Employment based immigration.
Even I participated in the campaign, but I don't think it will impact anything for us.
To who?
And why only $100?
Is Greencard $100 worth for you?
Even I participated in the campaign, but I don't think it will impact anything for us.
To who?
And why only $100?
Is Greencard $100 worth for you?
desi_scorpion
08-02 10:30 AM
Hi, which number did yyou call?
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delta313
02-16 04:42 PM
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anil_temp
08-27 10:57 PM
Finally I got the receipt notice for I485, AP, EAD. When I checked online, it seems they already ordered the EAD card.
My app received NSC on July 2nd 9:01 AM, got transfered to TSC.
My app received NSC on July 2nd 9:01 AM, got transfered to TSC.
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anda007
07-09 12:01 PM
People (including me have already sent the flowers to be delivered on the 10th.
So please do not change these dates, since that would look very awkward.
I have read in a few places that we plan to send flowers on 11, and 12th also?
If that is the case then the document has to be updated to include those dates. Also, I suggest collecting emails and fax numbers and assigning a few people to do the actual "sending". This will make it easier to coordinate.
So please do not change these dates, since that would look very awkward.
I have read in a few places that we plan to send flowers on 11, and 12th also?
If that is the case then the document has to be updated to include those dates. Also, I suggest collecting emails and fax numbers and assigning a few people to do the actual "sending". This will make it easier to coordinate.
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ragz4u
05-04 11:58 AM
I am having trouble attaching it here and will get back to it soon
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delax
07-27 08:01 PM
Earlier it was like this:
EB2 ROW --> EB3 ROW
If any left over after that then remaining numbers were equally divided between EB2-I/C and EB3-I/C so both EB2-I and EB3-I were getting equal share of spillover. Thats the way it should be.
If that were to be the case then EBROW should never have been retrogressed. E3ROW has been retrogressed for the last 20 months now.
EB2 ROW --> EB3 ROW
If any left over after that then remaining numbers were equally divided between EB2-I/C and EB3-I/C so both EB2-I and EB3-I were getting equal share of spillover. Thats the way it should be.
If that were to be the case then EBROW should never have been retrogressed. E3ROW has been retrogressed for the last 20 months now.
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apahilaj
02-03 07:44 PM
I have been waiting for the FP in the hope that they will be issuing it soon, its already Feb and I have not received it yet. Im the only one who has not recieved the notice yet in my friends circle, I have opened an SR last week. Mine is TSC application. Are there any TSC guys yet to receive the FP notices. Overall are there a significant number of people still waiting or is it just a few of us
Thanks
Hi,
What is your 485 notice date and which state are you residing?
Thanks
Hi,
What is your 485 notice date and which state are you residing?
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shukla77
05-23 12:36 PM
sent emails to 10 senators
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we_can
05-23 11:41 PM
Sent. Just took 10 mins for our cause.
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imconfused
07-08 11:22 AM
no it will not be voilation of the law at all. consider this scenario thats been going on for the last 30+ years. For example July 2006 visa bulletin for EB2 india was jan 2003 and the August 2006 visa bulletin for EB2 india was unavailable. EB2 india visa numbers might have already been used up when the August 2006 visa bulletin was released but they still accepted the AOS petitions filed until the end of July 2006, they did not issue an updated visa bulletin or a revised visa bulletin saying eb2 india numbers are used up and they will not accept eb2 india aos applications, they continued accpeting AOS applications until the end of july 2006.
If you have the patience you can go through the visa bulletin archieves and find many such examples. The point is for the last 30+ years USCIS\DOS accepted applications according to the visa bulletin even when visa numbers were used up, they could have just followed the same precedent that they themselves set for the last 30+ years and accepted the applications this time as well without issuing a revised visa bulletin. I am no legal expert but that is how i see it.
i agree.. thats being professional and ethical..
If you have the patience you can go through the visa bulletin archieves and find many such examples. The point is for the last 30+ years USCIS\DOS accepted applications according to the visa bulletin even when visa numbers were used up, they could have just followed the same precedent that they themselves set for the last 30+ years and accepted the applications this time as well without issuing a revised visa bulletin. I am no legal expert but that is how i see it.
i agree.. thats being professional and ethical..
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rc0878
09-20 01:13 PM
seshuvaidehi,
You can use the following link to check the status of any application. Simply enter your WAC receipt numbers -:
https://egov.uscis.gov/cris/caseStatusSearchDisplay.do;jsessionid=baclUg5aAK5E J5v5t4Jur
Also you can use the same link to register your account, that ways you will automatically recieve an email, once there is an update on your case.
Good luck!!!!!
Labor Certified in June 2006-India
I-140 approved Dec 2006
I-485 filed on July 23rd 2007 > Checks got cashed > Got Recipt:WAC ###
EAD filed on July 23rd 2007 > Checks got cashed > Got Recipt:WAC ###
AP filed on July 23rd 2007 > Checks got cashed > Got Recipt : WAC ###
How do I check if EAD card has been ordered and/or AP approved?
Your all are awesome and Thanks to Immigration Voice.
You can use the following link to check the status of any application. Simply enter your WAC receipt numbers -:
https://egov.uscis.gov/cris/caseStatusSearchDisplay.do;jsessionid=baclUg5aAK5E J5v5t4Jur
Also you can use the same link to register your account, that ways you will automatically recieve an email, once there is an update on your case.
Good luck!!!!!
Labor Certified in June 2006-India
I-140 approved Dec 2006
I-485 filed on July 23rd 2007 > Checks got cashed > Got Recipt:WAC ###
EAD filed on July 23rd 2007 > Checks got cashed > Got Recipt:WAC ###
AP filed on July 23rd 2007 > Checks got cashed > Got Recipt : WAC ###
How do I check if EAD card has been ordered and/or AP approved?
Your all are awesome and Thanks to Immigration Voice.
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unitednations
03-07 04:41 PM
Hey UN, with your experience, are you seeing a pattern of denials, etc happening to non bodyshopper, non consultants as well? as in, is this whole DOL/USCIS crack down across the board or is it mostly restricted to desi consultants/bodyshopers?
The situation on the ground is this:
L-1 extensions for software related jobs are pretty much now dead. TCS, IBM, etc., are getting denied. USCIS has changed their definition of "specialized knowledge". Now, "specialized knowledge"means no on in USA has that knowledge and cannot obtain that knowledge through training.
Staffing companies; small companies or companies who are h-1b dependent (larger comapnies) are stuck in Vermont Service Center. There are some that aren't having problems but usually it starts with one case stuck in background check; followed by a few approvals; then another one stuck in background check and then all of a sudden all cases are stuck in background check. The scrutiny uscis is giving these types of cases is tremondous and they are denying all of them. Right now; if you monitor the forums you are starting to see the denials. However, vermont service center was sticking cases in background check since fall of 2007. Now; those cases are being worked on and denied. We are just at the beginning of this.
Traditioinal American companies; h-1b and greencard have become toxic and political. Many of them aren't filing greencards for people due to layoffs or too many poeple responding to the advertisements. I haven't seen h-1b issues with them yet. However, if they are not going to do GC then what is the point.
Staffing companies had easiest time filing labors becuse they don't layoff people. However, after Iowa issue now they have started cancelling h-1b's for people on bench, etc. There are so many transfer requests in open market right now; but companies aren't filing because they are getting rid of their own people and it would be foolish to bring on more people in non productive status. However, when they are cancelling h-1b's and sending people back; it is a layoff and that would preclude them from filing greencards.
I do know of one person working at FEDEX as a permanent employee (she has greencard); she told me that FEDEX has taken the detemination that they will not be filing greencards for anyone in the near future. Person can stay until duration of their h-1b but then that will be it.
perm labors used to go through in matter of days. Anything mor then 3 weeks was considered a long time. Now; there is high rate of denials and DOL turning up the scrutiny as to layoffs and general workforce in the place of inteneded employment.
IT IS NOT A FUN TIME FOR ANYONE CONNECTED WITH IMMIGRATION RIGHT NOW.
The situation on the ground is this:
L-1 extensions for software related jobs are pretty much now dead. TCS, IBM, etc., are getting denied. USCIS has changed their definition of "specialized knowledge". Now, "specialized knowledge"means no on in USA has that knowledge and cannot obtain that knowledge through training.
Staffing companies; small companies or companies who are h-1b dependent (larger comapnies) are stuck in Vermont Service Center. There are some that aren't having problems but usually it starts with one case stuck in background check; followed by a few approvals; then another one stuck in background check and then all of a sudden all cases are stuck in background check. The scrutiny uscis is giving these types of cases is tremondous and they are denying all of them. Right now; if you monitor the forums you are starting to see the denials. However, vermont service center was sticking cases in background check since fall of 2007. Now; those cases are being worked on and denied. We are just at the beginning of this.
Traditioinal American companies; h-1b and greencard have become toxic and political. Many of them aren't filing greencards for people due to layoffs or too many poeple responding to the advertisements. I haven't seen h-1b issues with them yet. However, if they are not going to do GC then what is the point.
Staffing companies had easiest time filing labors becuse they don't layoff people. However, after Iowa issue now they have started cancelling h-1b's for people on bench, etc. There are so many transfer requests in open market right now; but companies aren't filing because they are getting rid of their own people and it would be foolish to bring on more people in non productive status. However, when they are cancelling h-1b's and sending people back; it is a layoff and that would preclude them from filing greencards.
I do know of one person working at FEDEX as a permanent employee (she has greencard); she told me that FEDEX has taken the detemination that they will not be filing greencards for anyone in the near future. Person can stay until duration of their h-1b but then that will be it.
perm labors used to go through in matter of days. Anything mor then 3 weeks was considered a long time. Now; there is high rate of denials and DOL turning up the scrutiny as to layoffs and general workforce in the place of inteneded employment.
IT IS NOT A FUN TIME FOR ANYONE CONNECTED WITH IMMIGRATION RIGHT NOW.
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WFGC2006
05-10 06:15 PM
Retrogressed all the way to 2000? Happened at the end of Q3 in the government calendar. Seem to me USCIS is laying the ground to assign all un-used visa number to indians in Q4. Just a guess....
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pani_6
07-27 11:17 AM
I was looking at the comments of one "sodepressed" in the Ron gothcer's forum..I am feeling really bad for this guy..I dont know what logic USCIS follows..but I assure you EB-3 I will fight for fair share and get it..with in 140 K numbers or thro Visa recapture #'s..first is to highlight our problems..so lets do it in creative ways...
EB-3 I I can see we progressing very soon..lets send out those letters..
:)
LEGAL AND STUCK IN - 7 YRS. ILLEGAL AND SNUCK IN - 7 MINS. CHOOSE!
It is a fact that EB3 India is a FORGOTTEN category. There appears to be a sense of intra-category elitism within the larger community that comes together at IV. EB3 I's make feeble attempts to be heard and some take a shot at innovative marketing campaigns to call attention to the plight of being stuck for over 6 ot 7 years in some cases. EB2 I's immediately respond with a self protectionist attitude and preach a higher calling that focuses on comprehensive solutions instead of piecemeal solutions. EB1 I's obviously choose to remain outside the fray, since these are matter of concern to vox populi, not them.
Some EB2's and EB3's then analyse the hell out of USCIS logic, to the extent that they could become full time spin meisters for ANY public organization. With very little fact, a healthy dose of opinion and a mish mash of 'logic', they piece together their 'strong' arguments -one way or the other.
Lost in this useless din of irrelevant analysis paralysis is the real misery of thousands of EB3 I's (such as myself) that have been stuck for years for no fault of ours. By the way, I happen to be a highly educated (for those that care) Executive that went to Top Private Universities in the US that happens to be stuck in EB3 ONLY because the company HR rep and lawyer at the time, chose to go down this path. POint being, there is no reason for EB2 I's to pontificate from a sense of elitist protectionism because there are EB3 I's like me that can outsmart a bunch of you in no time. Seriously. (This is for those that preach that if you are 'smart' you should be in EB2. Go read those threads).
So bottomline, let us stop behaving like CIS vs Anti CIS camps and instead UNITE towards the common cause. Let EB3I's air their frustrations. If you can come to help, do so. If not, stay out of it completely. No more half ass 'logic', please.
Thanks!
EB-3 I I can see we progressing very soon..lets send out those letters..
:)
LEGAL AND STUCK IN - 7 YRS. ILLEGAL AND SNUCK IN - 7 MINS. CHOOSE!
It is a fact that EB3 India is a FORGOTTEN category. There appears to be a sense of intra-category elitism within the larger community that comes together at IV. EB3 I's make feeble attempts to be heard and some take a shot at innovative marketing campaigns to call attention to the plight of being stuck for over 6 ot 7 years in some cases. EB2 I's immediately respond with a self protectionist attitude and preach a higher calling that focuses on comprehensive solutions instead of piecemeal solutions. EB1 I's obviously choose to remain outside the fray, since these are matter of concern to vox populi, not them.
Some EB2's and EB3's then analyse the hell out of USCIS logic, to the extent that they could become full time spin meisters for ANY public organization. With very little fact, a healthy dose of opinion and a mish mash of 'logic', they piece together their 'strong' arguments -one way or the other.
Lost in this useless din of irrelevant analysis paralysis is the real misery of thousands of EB3 I's (such as myself) that have been stuck for years for no fault of ours. By the way, I happen to be a highly educated (for those that care) Executive that went to Top Private Universities in the US that happens to be stuck in EB3 ONLY because the company HR rep and lawyer at the time, chose to go down this path. POint being, there is no reason for EB2 I's to pontificate from a sense of elitist protectionism because there are EB3 I's like me that can outsmart a bunch of you in no time. Seriously. (This is for those that preach that if you are 'smart' you should be in EB2. Go read those threads).
So bottomline, let us stop behaving like CIS vs Anti CIS camps and instead UNITE towards the common cause. Let EB3I's air their frustrations. If you can come to help, do so. If not, stay out of it completely. No more half ass 'logic', please.
Thanks!
zxc1251
02-03 03:20 PM
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Brother your assumption is flawed if someone come under reservation category they get their guaranteed reservation seat (on their merit basis in that class) if reservation % is fulfilled as per rule then their application goes to open category. That means 50% resources is for everyone in India.
This was happened few years back to get admission in one of top Medical school after scoring more than 92% was not able to get to desired top medical school but one of his friend who had just scored 58% was able to get in top notch medical school. Now this remind me similar situation what was happened 50 years before. Now making matter worst student who had got 92% was belonging to very middle class or you can say poor family but his friend was belonging to class one gazetted officer�s family (I would classify them upper middle class).
I think reservation was required in past to up-lift backward class and give them justice in system but now situation is change drastically we see people from all class is on same page .if someone wants to argue on this that is fine. In real sense if we need reservation then it should be on economics basis everyone should file taxes and they should get reservation accordingly with merits .In this way government will get more revenue and on the whole we will have fair justice to everyone (all cast )and this will provide better visibility what is happening to normal families. Now some will debate how we can avoid fraud for reporting low income then hey that is what government should be doing, proving infrastructure and enforcing rule of law other than that government has no business in dictating which cast is upper cast or lower cast.
Now real question pose by the other users here are we better-off here or back home? I think we always indulge in material benefits but there are other aspect of life you cannot put face value on it .What matter is the most are you Happy? What is your ultimate goal of life? What is the most important thing you want to have in your life? What is the most irritating thing you cannot overlook or make you uncomfortable? On top of all these key questions what are tools /resources available to you to address all these likes dislikes. So let us say if you are shooting for quality life then define what must have for that life and to get those you may have to bite bullet and compromise on some of those. If you can find middle ground some where there then we call those people happy people or successful people. So life is about making right choice all the time as per your own situations. When we are in this fine-tuning process we can always use help from our resources, friends, relative, culture, God, Money and our own intellectual.
Very well said...... My best friend (brightest among all of my school friends) in India belonging to Backward class could not study medicine or engineering because he had (no money) to support his family..... so he finished his shortest teaching course and became public school teacher.... He was capable of getting into any medical school without reservation help... and because he belonged to lower cast he was assured in any medical college with the help of reservation.... this reservation system does not work for real lower cast or for people who really need uplifting..... between I could not get into medicine because I was 1 mark short...... Just 1 mark..... :) ..... I am really happy were I am but reservation is a plague that is corrupting our nation.......
Brother your assumption is flawed if someone come under reservation category they get their guaranteed reservation seat (on their merit basis in that class) if reservation % is fulfilled as per rule then their application goes to open category. That means 50% resources is for everyone in India.
This was happened few years back to get admission in one of top Medical school after scoring more than 92% was not able to get to desired top medical school but one of his friend who had just scored 58% was able to get in top notch medical school. Now this remind me similar situation what was happened 50 years before. Now making matter worst student who had got 92% was belonging to very middle class or you can say poor family but his friend was belonging to class one gazetted officer�s family (I would classify them upper middle class).
I think reservation was required in past to up-lift backward class and give them justice in system but now situation is change drastically we see people from all class is on same page .if someone wants to argue on this that is fine. In real sense if we need reservation then it should be on economics basis everyone should file taxes and they should get reservation accordingly with merits .In this way government will get more revenue and on the whole we will have fair justice to everyone (all cast )and this will provide better visibility what is happening to normal families. Now some will debate how we can avoid fraud for reporting low income then hey that is what government should be doing, proving infrastructure and enforcing rule of law other than that government has no business in dictating which cast is upper cast or lower cast.
Now real question pose by the other users here are we better-off here or back home? I think we always indulge in material benefits but there are other aspect of life you cannot put face value on it .What matter is the most are you Happy? What is your ultimate goal of life? What is the most important thing you want to have in your life? What is the most irritating thing you cannot overlook or make you uncomfortable? On top of all these key questions what are tools /resources available to you to address all these likes dislikes. So let us say if you are shooting for quality life then define what must have for that life and to get those you may have to bite bullet and compromise on some of those. If you can find middle ground some where there then we call those people happy people or successful people. So life is about making right choice all the time as per your own situations. When we are in this fine-tuning process we can always use help from our resources, friends, relative, culture, God, Money and our own intellectual.
Very well said...... My best friend (brightest among all of my school friends) in India belonging to Backward class could not study medicine or engineering because he had (no money) to support his family..... so he finished his shortest teaching course and became public school teacher.... He was capable of getting into any medical school without reservation help... and because he belonged to lower cast he was assured in any medical college with the help of reservation.... this reservation system does not work for real lower cast or for people who really need uplifting..... between I could not get into medicine because I was 1 mark short...... Just 1 mark..... :) ..... I am really happy were I am but reservation is a plague that is corrupting our nation.......
jkays94
06-22 12:17 AM
Let's start our campaign for our own bill immediately. There is no motive to wait. We should pay lobbysts and ask them to approach lawmakers using the argument that legal immigrants need a relief without waiting for amnesty bills for illegal aliens.
The same argument applies, why would someone like Dianne Feinstein or other lawmakers who supported CIR because of industries such as agriculture, turn around and support a bill for legal immigrants when they traditionally have been opposed to bills that favor skilled workers ? The reality is that there will be no new bill until after November. I'm being pessimistic with good reason, look at the example that this Senator (http://www.senate.gov/~levin/newsroom/release.cfm?id=256689) gave regarding a measure that made it to the Senate and collapsed, but they did have success in the house where it passed as they would have wanted it to. What happened in this same case is what has happened to CIR, it got past the Senate but is now facing problems in the house. It goes to show that lobbying even with massive resources does not guarantee immediate success neither is the result what one set out to get, but indeed one is better off lobbying than not lobbying at all :
18 families worth a total of $185.5 billion quietly financed and coordinated a 10-year effort to repeal the estate tax. The report (http://www.citizen.org/documents/EstateTaxFinal.pdf) tells how these families spent over $200 million dollars contributing to political campaigns, financing outside lobby groups and trade associations, and creating a massive anti-estate tax coalition that served as the main coordinator of the repeal campaign.
The same argument applies, why would someone like Dianne Feinstein or other lawmakers who supported CIR because of industries such as agriculture, turn around and support a bill for legal immigrants when they traditionally have been opposed to bills that favor skilled workers ? The reality is that there will be no new bill until after November. I'm being pessimistic with good reason, look at the example that this Senator (http://www.senate.gov/~levin/newsroom/release.cfm?id=256689) gave regarding a measure that made it to the Senate and collapsed, but they did have success in the house where it passed as they would have wanted it to. What happened in this same case is what has happened to CIR, it got past the Senate but is now facing problems in the house. It goes to show that lobbying even with massive resources does not guarantee immediate success neither is the result what one set out to get, but indeed one is better off lobbying than not lobbying at all :
18 families worth a total of $185.5 billion quietly financed and coordinated a 10-year effort to repeal the estate tax. The report (http://www.citizen.org/documents/EstateTaxFinal.pdf) tells how these families spent over $200 million dollars contributing to political campaigns, financing outside lobby groups and trade associations, and creating a massive anti-estate tax coalition that served as the main coordinator of the repeal campaign.
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